Oh, I forgot...

[zeke1312]

Can you guys who are using Commodores open the pdf file I posted on the HPT subject? I posted it without thinking!

[Andrew Wiskow]

There is no PDF reader for Commodores...  So the answer is "no".  :/

-Andrew

[zeke1312]

Can a C display the pictures listed in the posts here? I guess so. Hey, I don't know; just asking:)

[airship]

No pictures, no PDFs. Think 'lynx', more or less.

[RobertB]

Can a C display the pictures listed in the posts here?

If the Commodore is appropriately equipped, it is capable of displaying pics... just not "in-line" with the rest of the webpage.  Most basic is to download the image with your C64/128 and look at it with a viewer, like the C64 JPEG viewer JPX/JPY/JPZ from Stephen Judd and Adrian Gonzalez.  If you want to look at the image while staying connected to the Internet, then you can use Cameron Kaiser's HyperLink 2.6c for the C64, Craig Bruce's ACETerm for the C64/128, or Jolse Maginnis-Chester Kollschen's WiNGs for the C64.  HyperLink and AceTerm require that the ISP have added bits -- the horsepower -- needed to work with the images, e.g., HyperLink needs Perl at the user's ISP.  WiNGs requires a SuperCPU with SuperRAM.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/

[airship]

So, in other words, assume that there's maybe one very, very geeky guy out there somewhere who can view them if he has $2000 worth of add-on hardware and lots of time to sit and wait for things to happen. But the rest of us can't.

Of course, most of us browse the web with a PC. While it's an interesting experiment to see how much you can do on the Intertubes with an 8-bit CBM computer, it's just not powerful enough to handle the massive volumes of download data and computation-intensive graphics display tasks that the Web requires.

Hey, I love my C128, but let's be practical here.

[RobertB]

...you can use Cameron Kaiser's HyperLink 2.6c for the C64...

I should be more accurate; Cameron's program is up to 2.6e, and it's enhanced for the C128, i.e., it can boot from C128 mode into C64 mode, you can configure it in C128 mode, and it makes use of the C128's VDC.  However, it still displays in C64 mode.

So, in other words, assume that there's maybe one very, very geeky guy out there somewhere who can view them if he has $2000 worth of add-on hardware...

ACETerm is free.  HyperLink is $7 for unlocking the downloadable version (or $12 if you want disks and docs).  Both just need a C64 or C128, disk drive, modem, and "cooperating" ISP (minimum requirements).

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/

[RobertB]

ACETerm is free.  HyperLink is $7 for unlocking the downloadable version (or $12 if you want disks and docs).

Oops, I'm not complete in my answer.  Off-line viewers for the C64/128 are free, e.g., the JPX/JPY/JPZ series and the venerable Swiss Army knife of graphics manipulation programs, Godot 64/128.

That reminds me...  Because HyperLink 2.6e is enhanced in C128 mode and because it is sold, that makes it a C128 commercial program to be listed on Douglas' Canonical List of Commercial C128 Programs.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/