The Compleat Lee O.

Andrew Wiskow · October 12, 2008, 06:30 PM

I'm looking for a collection of programs for the C128 called "The Compleat Lee O.", which was mentioned in issue 14 of C= Hacking. It's described as a "collection of programs submitted to Loadstar to be put out on their 128 Loadstar disks. The programmer, Leo O. Clinton, tried to help fill the barren field of 80 column programming."

The program I'm specifically looking for from that disk is called "auto expense". If anyone knows where I can get "The Compleat Lee O." or just the program called "Auto Expense", I'd appreciate the help. My searches on the Internet have turned up nothing, and this doesn't appear to be included in "Loadstar Compleat".

Andrew Wiskow · October 16, 2008, 11:50 AM

Anyone? ... Anyone? ...

Bueller?

RobertB · October 28, 2008, 11:27 PM

Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on October 12, 2008, 06:30 PM
If anyone knows where I can get "The Compleat Lee O." or just the program called "Auto Expense", I'd appreciate the help. My searches on the Internet have turned up nothing, and this doesn't appear to be included in "Loadstar Compleat".

Andrew, have you directly contacted Dave Moorman, current editor of Loadstar, or Fender Tucker, former editor of Loadstar?

Thought about... finally made a reply,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
CommVEx v5 info - http://www.commodore.ca/forum and click on ComVEX

Andrew Wiskow · October 30, 2008, 10:11 AM

No, I haven't... Since it's a collection of C128 programs, I was hoping that someone here would have it. It isn't mentioned anywhere on Fender's Loadstar Compleat website. I'll try sending Dave Moorman an e-mail and see if he knows anything about it...

Andrew Wiskow · October 31, 2008, 11:37 AM

Okay... I sent Dave Moorman an e-mail... I'm just waiting to hear back from him now.

RobertB · October 31, 2008, 11:42 AM

Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on October 31, 2008, 11:37 AMI'm just waiting to hear back from him now.

If he doesn't respond quickly, you can always telephone him.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
CommVEx v5 info - http://www.commodore.ca/forum and click on ComVEX

Andrew Wiskow · November 01, 2008, 08:04 AM

Quote from: RobertB on October 31, 2008, 11:42 AMIf he doesn't respond quickly, you can always telephone him.

Well, nevermind that I don't have his phone number, it really isn't THAT urgent. I just thought it'd be cool to track my gas mileage on my C128.

Come to think of it, if anyone knows of another gas mileage tracking program for either the C64 or C128, please let me know. I did some searching, and the reference to this program was the only one I could find. But I imagine there were probably others...

RobertB · November 01, 2008, 06:00 PM

Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on November 01, 2008, 08:04 AMCome to think of it, if anyone knows of another gas mileage tracking program for either the C64 or C128, please let me know.

Couldn't you do the same thing with a C= database or a spreadsheet?

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
CommVEx v5 info - http://www.commodore.ca/forum and click on ComVEX

Andrew Wiskow · November 02, 2008, 02:28 AM

Quote from: RobertB on November 01, 2008, 06:00 PMCouldn't you do the same thing with a C= database or a spreadsheet?

Of course, but finding the description for this program piqued my interest. It made me wonder what sort of "features" were written into the program. Or is it just a simple spreadsheet program? And it was written for the C128, so it must be really special.

RobertB · November 02, 2008, 08:30 AM

O.K., I just got off the phone with Dave Moorman of Loadstar. We had a nice conversation that spanned several subjects, like Commodore shows, DotBasic, Commodore traveling, hardware, Loadstar, and the Compleat Lee O.. As to the last one, he doesn't have Lee O. in his collection. Therefore, Fender Tucker may be the only source.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
CommVEx v5 info - http://www.commodore.ca/forum and click on ComVEX

RobertB · November 02, 2008, 03:45 PM

Quote from: me on November 02, 2008, 08:30 AMTherefore, Fender Tucker may be the only source.

I've sent an inquiry to Fender Tucker.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
CommVEx v5 info - http://www.commodore.ca/forum and click on ComVEX

Andrew Wiskow · November 03, 2008, 06:36 AM

Thanks for your help, Robert. My brother-in-law and nephew arrived here from Brazil today, so I'm going to be extremely busy playing sightseeing guide for the next week or so.

RobertB · November 03, 2008, 02:36 PM

Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on November 03, 2008, 06:36 AMMy brother-in-law and nephew arrived here from Brazil today...

Ooo, ask them about Commodores in Brazil! :-)

Ever curious,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
CommVEx v5 info - http://www.commodore.ca/forum and click on ComVEX

Andrew Wiskow · November 04, 2008, 02:29 AM

Quote from: RobertB on November 03, 2008, 02:36 PMOoo, ask them about Commodores in Brazil! :-)

Commodore didn't exist in Brazil. At the time that Commodore computers were popular, Brazil was pretty much closed to imports. The Brazilian government at the time made it nearly impossible to import anything from outside of Brazil by imposing a 500%+ import tax.

RobertB · November 04, 2008, 03:29 AM

Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on November 04, 2008, 02:29 AM...Brazil was pretty much closed to imports. The Brazilian government at the time made it nearly impossible to import anything from outside of Brazil by imposing a 500%+ import tax.

O.K., ask them about the black market in Commodore computers. :-) Shades of surreptitious smuggling across closed borders!

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
CommVEx v5 info - http://www.commodore.ca/forum and click on ComVEX

airship · November 04, 2008, 04:14 AM

Was there a Kernal for Portuguese?

Andrew Wiskow · November 04, 2008, 10:30 AM

I lived in Brazil in 1991-1992, and computers at that time in Brazil were still pretty much a rarity. The only ones I saw while I was there were cheap PC clones.

RobertB · November 08, 2008, 03:09 AM

Quote from: me on November 02, 2008, 03:45 PM
I've sent an inquiry to Fender Tucker.

Fender responded today. Here is part of what he had to say:

"It's good to hear from you. I see you are still ambassadoring for the Commodore computer from various newsletters I receive. Great!
For some reason I didn't include the COMPLEAT LEE O on the COMPLEAT LOADSTAR but all of his programs, including AUTO EXPENSE, are on the CD in the D64 and D81 files for each issue. [In other words, all of Lee O.'s programs are not collected in a group; you have to search each issue on the Compleat Loadstar CD for the Auto Expense program, or use the Loadstar Database to aid in the search.] So they're available.

[snip]

So Andrew can get everything by getting the LS COMPLEAT CD ($24 from me).

[snip]

I wish all loyal Commodoreans the best.

[snip]

I have a book about my years at LOADSTAR in the works."

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/

Andrew Wiskow · November 09, 2008, 02:38 AM

I have a nearly-complete collection of Loadstar on original floppy disks. Does anyone here have access to the Loadstar Database? If so, could you tell me which issue Auto Expense is on?

I think I need to break down and just buy the CD from Fender.

RobertB · November 09, 2008, 05:48 AM

Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on November 09, 2008, 02:38 AMDoes anyone here have access to the Loadstar Database? If so, could you tell me which issue Auto Expense is on?

No guarantees but when I return back to my house, I will take a look.

Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on November 09, 2008, 02:38 AMI think I need to break down and just buy the CD from Fender.

Yeah, you'll get all of the Loadstar 128 issues and .pdf's of all the Loadstar Letters (that include some of my very first national articles, which I wrote especially for Loadstar).

Met with the Amigaclub.be members yesterday
in Los Angeles,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/

Andrew Wiskow · November 10, 2008, 02:00 AM

Not to mention, who knows how much longer these floppy disks will really last... At least on a CD, the stuff is preserved for much longer.

RobertB · November 15, 2008, 07:13 AM

Quote from: me on November 08, 2008, 03:09 AM
Fender responded today. Here is part of what he had to say...

Fender sent me a follow-up today. This is what he said:

"After what I wrote before, I checked out LOADSTAR COMPLEAT and in the folder called "Serious Stuff" there's the D81 versions of THE COMPLEAT LEE O. So the Commodorean doesn't have to hunt for the Clinton programs."

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug

Andrew Wiskow · November 20, 2008, 09:48 AM

Awesome! I'll be placing my order for Loadstar Compleat soon.

Golan Klinger · November 20, 2008, 02:34 PM

Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on November 20, 2008, 09:48 AM
Awesome! I'll be placing my order for Loadstar Compleat soon.

Check your email.

Andrew Wiskow · November 20, 2008, 05:00 PM

Quote from: Golan Klinger on November 20, 2008, 02:34 PM
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on November 20, 2008, 09:48 AM
Awesome! I'll be placing my order for Loadstar Compleat soon.

Check your email.

I should've said that I'm going to place an order for Loadstar Compleat *now*, because that's exactly what I did... Nonetheless, I appreciate your offer.