20" Sony RGB monitor

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Speaker-to-8bits

I have 2 of these ex-medical Sony monitors, the kids use one with their playstation 2,
and I get the other for my vintage equipment.  I have a similar one, but only 13",
at my work bench.

These are really great: stereo audio amp (no speakers, just hookups for external speakers),
two comp/s-video inputs, and a RGB hookup that, until now, I had never tried. 

The RGB has a proprietary d-sub 25 pin connector.  With the
d-sub you can select either digital or analog input.  The 13" has the same
connector, and I wanted to use it with a 128D that I am putting at the work
bench, so I got the pinouts from work for the monitor and set to work.

I had to try it on the big screen before I installed it at the bench.....

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Best of all, they were free! 

-Brian

RobertB

Quote from: Brian on November 17, 2008, 03:42 PM
I have 2 of these ex-medical Sony monitors, the kids use one with their playstation 2,
and I get the other for my vintage equipment.
My school had one of those, but when it went bad, they did not even try to repair it. i.e., they disposed of it.
Quote from: Brian on November 17, 2008, 03:42 PM
I have a similar one, but only 13", at my work bench.
I have two of the 13-inchers.  I've only tried the composite on one, and the screen was purple.  :-(  I haven't tried out the other.
Quote from: Brian on November 17, 2008, 03:42 PM
The RGB has a proprietary d-sub 25 pin connector.  With the
d-sub you can select either digital or analog input.  The 13" has the same
connector, and I wanted to use it with a 128D that I am putting at the work
bench, so I got the pinouts from work for the monitor and set to work.
From where did you get the priprietary connector?  Can you post a description of the pin-outs?

             Wanting to see digital RGB on them,
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Speaker-to-8bits

Quote from: RobertB on November 17, 2008, 05:50 PM

     From where did you get the priprietary connector?  Can you post a description of the pin-outs?

             

Whoops, that was a bad choice of words on my part.  "Proprietary" in the sense that
it is Sony's own pinout, not that the connector itself is proprietary.  The connector is
the same 25-pin d-sub connector the computer industry has used for over 30 years.

Here are the pinouts:

Pin1: IBM Select (hi=ibm, lo=ttl)
Pin2: Audio select (hi=audio on pin 13, lo=audio on external inputs)
pin3: H. sync or comp. sync
pin4: blue
pin5: green
pin6: red
pin7 & 8: no connection
pin9: analog/digital select (hi=analog, lo=digital ttl)
pin 10: RGB/normal select (hi=rgb, lo=composite video from line a or b)
pin 11: V. sync
pin 12: Blanking (hi = rgb, lo = switches to line a/b composite)
pin 13: audio input (selected with pin 2, otherwise external inputs used)
pin 14: no connection
pins 15-24: ground
pin 25: ibm luminance signal

to select 'hi' on an input, just leave it open.  to select 'lo' just jumper it to ground.

So my connector used pins 3,4,5,6,11, and 25.  I took pin 9 to ground.  You can
land the grounds from the commodore anywhere on pins 15-24.

BTW, this is a PVM-2030.   Sony did make a set of speakers for this monitor, they
mounted on the sides, and would fold back when not needed.  There was a set
on ebay a while ago (with a monitor, very heavy).


-Brian















RobertB

Quote from: Brian on November 18, 2008, 12:31 AM
Pin1: IBM Select (hi=ibm, lo=ttl)
Pin2: Audio select (hi=audio on pin 13, lo=audio on external inputs)
pin3: H. sync or comp. sync
pin4: blue
pin5: green
pin6: red
pin7 & 8: no connection
pin9: analog/digital select (hi=analog, lo=digital ttl)
pin 10: RGB/normal select (hi=rgb, lo=composite video from line a or b)
pin 11: V. sync
pin 12: Blanking (hi = rgb, lo = switches to line a/b composite)
pin 13: audio input (selected with pin 2, otherwise external inputs used)
pin 14: no connection
pins 15-24: ground
pin 25: ibm luminance signal

to select 'hi' on an input, just leave it open.  to select 'lo' just jumper it to ground.

So my connector used pins 3,4,5,6,11, and 25.  I took pin 9 to ground.  You can
land the grounds from the commodore anywhere on pins 15-24.
Thanks!  Now I have the details to make the appropriate cable.

                Truly,
                Robert Bernardo
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Andrew Sutton

Sweet! Now I have to ask, are those all your Mopars?
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Speaker-to-8bits

Quote from: Andrew Sutton on November 18, 2008, 12:57 PM
Sweet! Now I have to ask, are those all your Mopars?

HA!  No, those were my father's.  We sold most of them this summer, he doesn't have
as much energy as he used to.  He did keep a pair of 440's (2 door  and 4 door), plus
one mint New Yorker that isn't pictured.

BTW, the '50 Kenworth is sitting in my driveway!


Later-
Brian



RobertB

Quote from: Andrew Sutton on November 18, 2008, 12:57 PM...are those all your Mopars?
Heh, I've always been a Ford man.  :)

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airship

No bailout = we'll all be Honda and Hyundai men in the future.

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RobertB

Quote from: airship on November 20, 2008, 01:48 AM...we'll all be Honda and Hyundai men in the future.
Heh, one of my matchmaking friends wants me to buy a new Ford Mustang, thinking that females will come flocking.  My response -- but it can't hold enough Commodore/Amiga/school gear!  :D

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Andrew Wiskow

Quote from: RobertB on November 20, 2008, 06:23 PMMy response -- but it can't hold enough Commodore/Amiga/school gear!  :D

Sounds like you need a Ford Excursion!  ;)
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Golan Klinger

Quote from: RobertB on November 20, 2008, 06:23 PM
Heh, one of my matchmaking friends wants me to buy a new Ford Mustang, thinking that females will come flocking.
Perhaps their thinking is that with a muscle car you'll be better able to catch fleeing females. ;D
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airship

Nah. In a bad economy, just having a steady job is the best aphrodisiac.
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RobertB

Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on November 20, 2008, 07:41 PMSounds like you need a Ford Excursion!  ;)
Nah, I like looking at classic Ford Rancheros, or as Lord Ronin puts it, "a gentleman's pick-up".  :)

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                  http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
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Andrew Wiskow

Quote from: RobertB on November 21, 2008, 06:32 PMNah, I like looking at classic Ford Rancheros, or as Lord Ronin puts it, "a gentleman's pick-up".  :)

A classic car for hauling around classic computer gear...  I can understand that.  But I don't think a pick-up is the way to go...  You need something with a top on it to keep everything dry in case you get stuck in the rain.  Maybe a classic Winnebago is the way to go!  ;)
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RobertB

Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on November 22, 2008, 12:56 PM
But I don't think a pick-up is the way to go...  You need something with a top on it to keep everything dry in case you get stuck in the rain.
Easy solution.  A camper top or a tonneau cover.  :)
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on November 22, 2008, 12:56 PM
Maybe a classic Winnebago is the way to go!  ;)
It's not a Ford (the smaller, older Winnebagos were built with Chrysler components).  It also goes against my philosophy of the vehicle being "car-like".

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              Robert Bernardo
              Fresno Commodore User Group
              http://videocam.net.au/fcug
              The Other Group of Amigoids
              http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
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Andrew Wiskow

Quote from: RobertB on November 22, 2008, 02:47 PMEasy solution.  A camper top or a tonneau cover.  :)

There's an idea...


I think the hardest thing would be to find a Ford Ranchero in good condition...
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RobertB

#16
Quote from: Andrew Wiskow on November 22, 2008, 03:30 PMI think the hardest thing would be to find a Ford Ranchero in good condition...
That's why you rebuild/restore... whether it's a Ford or a Commodore.

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Andrew Sutton

An El Camino might do the trick as well!
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RobertB

Quote from: Andrew Sutton on November 24, 2008, 12:21 PM
An El Camino might do the trick as well!
Yeah, I look at El Caminos, but they aren't Fords.

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