c128 Cd rom

Started by alvaro262, February 26, 2009, 08:22 PM

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alvaro262

Do anybody know if exists a CD rom for a C 128/64 ?

RobertB

Quote from: alvaro262 on February 26, 2009, 08:22 PMDo anybody know if exists a CD rom for a C 128/64 ?
Do you mean a CD-ROM drive for the Commodore 64/128?

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alvaro262

yes, that is what I mean, a CD ROM drive for a C 128 and/or a 64.
Disculpa mi inglés.

RobertB

Quote from: alvaro262 on February 27, 2009, 05:59 PM
yes, that is what I mean, a CD ROM drive for a C 128 and/or a 64.
You would need a SCSI CD-ROM drive connected to a CMD hard drive connected to your Commodore.  Or you would need a IDE64 that has the connection for a IDE hard drive to the Commodore.
     Necesitaria una unidad de SCSI CD-ROM conectada a un disco duro de CMD conectado a su Commodore.  O necesitaria un IDE64 que tiene la conexion para un disco duro IDE al Commodore.
Quote from: alvaro262 on February 27, 2009, 05:59 PMDisculpa mi inglés.
No hay problema.  :)

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SmallCleverDinosaur

Robert, you speak spanish (or is it portugees)? Why am I not surprised :D
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alvaro262

I speak spanish, buddy. I live in Uruguay. Can you find me in a map as fast as I find Sweden (Sverige) ?
I have my C 128 from 1987, I was one of the firsts to have it in my country. I used it for 8 years and I want to use it again, but most of my 5 1/4 disks are corrupted. This is why I´m looking for another media, a ver durable one.
In think other way is to conect my C 128 to a PC, but it seems a little complicated because I need a special cable, software, etc.

My best regards

SmallCleverDinosaur

I think I can find Uruguay as fast as you can find Sweden ;) Crammed in between Brazil and Argentina in the southeast of Southamerica. And Montevideo is your capital, right?

I sort of understood that you speak spanish since the flag on your profile gave it away that you're from Uruguay.

If you really want an easy way to transfer D64's to and from your PC I would recommend one of the many devices that enables the Commodore to read/write SD-memorycards.
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Blacklord

I'll hijack the thread & say I'm learning espanola :)

alvaro262

Great, thank you for this.
But, and please forgive my ignorance, what hardware do I need to make tis connection?
Can you help me or I have to ask to other buddy here ?

Sweden is a great country for my people because a large number of uruguayans have forced-emigrated to your country during the military dictatorial goverment between 1973 -1984. A lot of them are still there and they love Sweden, not only for the country but also for the swedens.
Thank you for that.

SmallCleverDinosaur

:) It's nice to know that we made a difference during those years. Sweden is a sanctuary for many different people from around the world that has fled from dictatorial governments. Like your country, Chile, Argentina, Iraq, China, just to mention a few. It's also nice to see that most countries in Southamerica finally can endure some peace and freedom for their people :)

I think the most recent device developed for the C64/C128 that is able to read SD-cards is the SD2IEC. See this thread. It's actually a discdrive emulator that, instead of a physical disc, stores its contents in D64's on an SD-card.

Since SD-cards can store an enormous amount of data when talking about the Commodores, this is quite a practical way to access all your discs very easily. An SD-card of 2GB can hold over 12,000 disc images (D64) :)

In your case though, maybe you need something that can transfer the contents of your old discs into D64's stored in your PC? Then one clever device is for example the MMC Replay. It's a cartridge that plugs into the expansionport of the C64/C128. On the cartridge there is also a slot for an SD-card. You then hook up your discdrive to your Commodore and use the software in the MMC Replay to transfer the contents of the disc to the SD-card which can then be read by the PC. And of course, you can transfer D64's, stored on the SD-card, on to real discs using this cartridge too :)
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alvaro262

thank you very much for your help.
can this device (MMC Replay) be used as as Disk drive unit?
I mean, Has it a device number to use wtih the Load command  (load "a game", x)
I guess yes, but I would like to hear your opinion.
May be it can be managed only with some software and not directly.

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RobertB

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Quote from: alvaro262 on February 28, 2009, 09:22 PMcan this device (MMC Replay) be used as as Disk drive unit?
Though I am no expert on the MMC Replay, we have a SCCAN member who has the older MMC64.  It performs more like a cartridge than a disk drive.  For the read/write capability of a disk drive, you can use other devices, the SD2IEC, the uIEC/SD, or the uIEC/CompactFlash.
     Aunque no soy experto en la MMC Replay, tenemos un miembro de SCCAN quien tiene la mas vieja MMC64.  Funciona como un cartucho en vez de una unidad de disco.  Para la capacidad de leer/escribir de una unidad de disco, puede usar otro aparato, la SD2IEC, la uIEC/SD, la uIEC/CompactFlash, o 1541 Ultimate.

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alvaro262

thank you very much Robert an "SmallClever Dinosuar" for sharing your knowledge.  I´ll keep investigating about this topic.
In other hand: it is possible to write a 3.5 disc in a PC (using some kind of emulator) and then to use it in a 1581 connected to a C64 or 128?
Where can I get this emulator ?
if exists, of course.
Ok, see you tomorrow, today I have to work all day in a Hospital.
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BigDumbDinosaur

QuotePD: hey BigDumbDinosaur, if some day you come here, I sure you would never forget my country!!
SEarch "Punta del Este" and see the beaches here.

Not likely I will be able to come to Uraguay.  Thanks to advanced age and endless assaults by Pac-Man, I'm too decrepit to go much of anywhere except to la lavatoria.  :D  But thanks for the invite.
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SmallCleverDinosaur

Quote from: alvaro262 on February 28, 2009, 09:22 PM
Maybe one day you can come here to see our wonderful beaches and natural country!.
I'd like that very much :) I've never been to Southamerica, but hopefully some day... :)

Quote from: alvaro262 on February 28, 2009, 09:22 PM
can this device (MMC Replay) be used as as Disk drive unit?
Quote from: RobertB on March 01, 2009, 05:40 PM
     Though I am no expert on the MMC Replay, we have a SCCAN member who has the older MMC64.  It performs more like a cartridge than a disk drive.  For the read/write capability of a disk drive, you can use other devices, the SD2IEC, the uIEC/SD, or the uIEC/CompactFlash.
The MMC Replay (unlike the MMC64) has the ability to mount D64's so that they can be directly accessed like the D64 was actually in a physical drive in exactly the same way that the SD2IEC works. However, this emulation works very poorly and an SD2IEC is much better if you only want to emulate the disc drive. Besides, in the MMC Replay, the mounted D64 is downloaded into the cartridges' static RAM memory and is being read from there. That means that it cannot be written to, since the access is actually being made from RAM and not the D64 itself.

But when it comes to transferring physical discs to D64's (and vice versa) the MMC Replay does a great job :)

Quote from: alvaro262 on March 01, 2009, 07:26 PM
In other hand: it is possible to write a 3.5 disc in a PC (using some kind of emulator) and then to use it in a 1581 connected to a C64 or 128?
I know of two programs that reads and writes Commodore 3.5" discs on a PC. Omniflop and 1581-copy.
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