Hi, all from the Great White North

quarkx · November 08, 2009, 05:10 AM

Hi, all,
My name is Glen, and I just found your site!
Not really all that much to say, other than I consider myself a "historian" rather than just a hardware junkie. I love the stories and "behind the scene" stuff on how it came to be. 2 years ago, I ignored the Plus/4, but after reading the actual story behind it and the fight Bil (Herd) had to do to get it out, well, I must say it is a fascinating story.
I am new to the Commodore scene, but I have been involved with the Amiga for a few years now. After I read the Book "On the Edge" I was hooked on Commodore. I was a "Poor" kid, who just grew up with a CoCo, and was really into that for a while (If its still around, my old web site was "www.thecocolounge.com) then I was introduced to the Amiga and run the site/blog amigalounge.com.
Lately, I have been fascinated with the TED series and built a sub-domain on that.
I am collecting as much as possible, and I am getting a 128 in soon (within the next 2 weeks).
I am also part of AMICUE and hope to actually build a museum for this some day (when I win the Lotto)

I was getting sick of the shanagains over at A.org and wanted a more C= perspective, so here I am. I also lurk over at Amibay.

RobertB · November 08, 2009, 06:15 AM

Welcome!

Quote from: quarkx on November 08, 2009, 05:10 AM
I love the stories and "behind the scene" stuff on how it came to be.

Me, too, though I don't understand everything, because I was just an ordinary user. I'm still trying to get this year's Chuck Peddle video from Jeri Ellsworth to put on-line (my version copied at the show is mediocre). And Dave Haynie, who attended CommVEx, had bunches of stories to tell (...more to put on-line eventually).

Quote2 years ago, I ignored the Plus/4, but after reading the actual story behind it and the fight Bil (Herd) had to do to get it out, well, I must say it is a fascinating story.

Don't forget to go to http://plus4.com to keep up with what's going on in that part of the C= universe.

Quote(If its still around, my old web site was "www.thecocolounge.com)...

Yes, it is.

Quote...then I was introduced to the Amiga and run the site/blog amigalounge.com.

Oh, that's a very nice site. (By the way, more modern photos of Bil Herd are found at the FCUG website.

)

QuoteI am also part of AMICUE...

Was AMICUE ever in contact with CUE (Commodore Users of Edmonton)? Or was CUE part of AMICUE?

Quote...and hope to actually build a museum for this some day...

Have you ever been in contact with Bob Kadylo? When I was in Edmonton in 2004, Bruce Thomas introduced me to Bob, who had warehouses, ship containers, and trailers of Commodore and Apple stuff.

QuoteI was getting sick of the shanagains over at A.org and wanted a more C= perspective, so here I am.

Heh, when I'm sick of the shenanigans at some C= sites, I head on over to Amiga.org or Amigaworld.net for a refreshing Ami perspective!

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org

quarkx · November 08, 2009, 05:02 PM

Quote from: RobertB on November 08, 2009, 06:15 AM
Welcome!
Quote from: quarkx on November 08, 2009, 05:10 AM
I love the stories and "behind the scene" stuff on how it came to be.
Me, too, though I don't understand everything, because I was just an ordinary user. I'm still trying to get this year's Chuck Peddle video from Jeri Ellsworth to put on-line (my version copied at the show is mediocre). And Dave Haynie, who attended CommVEx, had bunches of stories to tell (...more to put on-line eventually).
Quote2 years ago, I ignored the Plus/4, but after reading the actual story behind it and the fight Bil (Herd) had to do to get it out, well, I must say it is a fascinating story.
Don't forget to go to http://plus4.com to keep up with what's going on in that part of the C= universe.
Quote(If its still around, my old web site was "www.thecocolounge.com)...
Yes, it is.
Quote...then I was introduced to the Amiga and run the site/blog amigalounge.com.
Oh, that's a very nice site. (By the way, more modern photos of Bil Herd are found at the FCUG website. )
QuoteI am also part of AMICUE...
Was AMICUE ever in contact with CUE (Commodore Users of Edmonton)? Or was CUE part of AMICUE?
Quote...and hope to actually build a museum for this some day...
Have you ever been in contact with Bob Kadylo? When I was in Edmonton in 2004, Bruce Thomas introduced me to Bob, who had warehouses, ship containers, and trailers of Commodore and Apple stuff.
QuoteI was getting sick of the shanagains over at A.org and wanted a more C= perspective, so here I am.
Heh, when I'm sick of the shenanigans at some C= sites, I head on over to Amiga.org or Amigaworld.net for a refreshing Ami perspective!

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org

Amicue (as far as I know) is CUE . I have yet to learn all the names, but I sure have heard stories of Bob's collection.
I frequent plus4.com a bit also.
I have been in Contact a bit with Bil, but yea, I need some modern photos of all the TED guys. So far Dave Haynie has not answered an of my e-mails (probably smartly so

).
Chuck did another video? Cool, the last one I saw was from 2007 were he was Skyping in from Shrilanka.

Off topic:
Bob, any chance of you doing a follow up on the NASA stuff, or did they get rid of all the Amigas by now?

RobertB · November 08, 2009, 06:49 PM

Quote from: quarkx on November 08, 2009, 05:02 PMAmicue (as far as I know) is CUE.

Bruce Thomas told me that CUE does not meet anymore (though I see that AMICUE still has monthly meetings).

QuoteI have yet to learn all the names, but I sure have heard stories of Bob's collection.

It is most amazing.

QuoteChuck did another video? Cool, the last one I saw was from 2007 were he was Skyping in from Shrilanka.

Yeah, that was the one done at Vintage Computer Festival East.

QuoteBob, any chance of you doing a follow up on the NASA stuff, or did they get rid of all the Amigas by now?

I've been told over and over that the Amigas are gone from satellite telemetry at NASA.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org

quarkx · November 09, 2009, 03:26 AM

Amicue is a bit different though (I think ) from your typical user group meetings, the "core" guys meet every Saturday for a coffee session, then once a month also. Everything is discussed in the technology field- Not just Amiga (if any) or Commodore in general, I have been trying to "bring back" that Commodore excitement.
Don't get me wrong though, it is a great environment (and I am leaning a lot from them-which is even better), but most of these guys turned off their Amigas long time ago. The president (Craig) is also the owner of Amitrix and I have been trying to get them to make some more SCSI TV cards for the CDTV. it looks positive at this point, its just taking a lot longer, because of other commitments (that Craig has) hopefully after, we can bring some more (easy) and much needed hardware back to the community. We are looking at some other stuff too.

Because my C128 is not arriving with a power supply, gives me a chance to take the ATX to Amiga adaptor, and reverse engineer it to a C128 (should be a simple matter of moving 1 or 2 wires around) if it is successful, I could bring these out for literally a few bucks a piece to the community also.
I am still trying to hunt down the C128D, and a C116 to add to the collection though, but the 128D's seem to be either outrageously priced (horded) or the shipping to Canada is insane these days.

RobertB · November 09, 2009, 06:15 AM

Quote from: quarkx on November 09, 2009, 03:26 AM
Amicue is a bit different though (I think ) from your typical user group meetings, the "core" guys meet every Saturday for a coffee session, then once a month also.

Oh, similar to the Dienstagstreff C= meetings in Bochum, Germany. They meet every week on Tuesday.

QuoteThe president (Craig) is also the owner of Amitrix and I have been trying to get them to make some more SCSI TV cards for the CDTV. it looks positive at this point, its just taking a lot longer...

That's the way it always is with small, specific production runs.

Quote...hopefully after, we can bring some more (easy) and much needed hardware back to the community. We are looking at some other stuff too.

Yes, hardware is always needed. I've tried to get two C= hardware projects off the ground, to no avail.

QuoteBecause my C128 is not arriving with a power supply, gives me a chance to take the ATX to Amiga adaptor, and reverse engineer it to a C128 (should be a simple matter of moving 1 or 2 wires around) if it is successful, I could bring these out for literally a few bucks a piece to the community also.

Don't forget that the C128 needs 5V DC and 9V AC.

QuoteI am still trying to hunt down the C128D, and a C116 to add to the collection though, but the 128D's seem to be either outrageously priced (horded) or the shipping to Canada is insane these days.

Heh, for the last 4 CommVExes, we've raffled off a C128DCR. We break tradition in 2010 by raffling off an Amiga 1200 in its place.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org

RobertB · November 10, 2009, 12:38 PM

Quote from: quarkx on November 08, 2009, 05:02 PMAmicue (as far as I know) is CUE . I have yet to learn all the names, but I sure have heard stories of Bob's collection.

Today Bruce Thomas answered one of my e-mails on a different topic. Additionally, in that response, he talked a bit about CUE --

"Back in about 1989 CUE split into 8-bit (64, 128) and 16-bit (Amiga) sides. The Amiga side took the name AmiCUE and is still functioning. Some of the members wrote quite a bit of software (some commercial) for the Amiga. Bob Kadylo (of the trailers and warehouses full of C= equipment fame) also attends most of their meetings."

Now I know the difference,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org

quarkx · November 10, 2009, 12:52 PM

Great, I don't think anyone would object if the "CUE" members came back into the fold LOL. We just don't do much with the Amiga's these days, but at the next meeting, I have been asked to bring in my C16 and Plus /4 because not many of them even heard of the TED series until the last meeting when I brought the 20 Anniversary Video of the 128 with Bil and Dave. This week I am trying to get a good copy of the C64-25 Anniversary interview with Jack for Thursday's meeting.

Bob, if you have the new Chuck Video up somewhere, please send me a link, so I can show it at the next meeting.-PLEEEEAASE!!

RobertB · November 10, 2009, 12:59 PM

Quote from: quarkx on November 10, 2009, 12:52 PM
...not many of them even heard of the TED series until the last meeting when I brought the 20 Anniversary Video of the 128 with Bil and Dave.

They need some learning to do!

QuoteThis week I am trying to get a good copy of the C64-25 Anniversary interview with Jack for Thursday's meeting.

Oh, the Computer History Museum doesn't have its copy on-line anymore?

QuoteBob, if you have the new Chuck Video up somewhere, please send me a link...

Jeri has the good version; I only have a ratty version filmed off the projection screen at CommVEx.

If you need the CHM video, I have it saved,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org

RobertB · November 10, 2009, 01:05 PM

Quote from: me on November 10, 2009, 12:59 PMIf you need the CHM video, I have it saved...

Ouch, the Impact of the Commodore 64 25th anniversary video from the Computer History Museum is 200 megs!

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org

quarkx · November 10, 2009, 01:05 PM

Quote from: RobertB on November 10, 2009, 12:59 PM

Oh, the Computer History Museum doesn't have its copy on-line anymore?
QuoteBob, if you have the new Chuck Video up somewhere, please send me a link...
Jeri has the good version; I only have a ratty version filmed off the projection screen at CommVEx.

If you need the CHM video, I have it saved,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org

I just found the you-tube video, and (I think) the school where we meet, blocks you-tube, so a copy would be much appriciated.

RobertB · November 10, 2009, 01:13 PM

Quote from: quarkx on November 10, 2009, 01:05 PMI just found the you-tube video...

Hmm, the event went on for more than an hour. I thought YouTube had a policy that limited ordinary users to 10 minutes, 32 seconds of video (unless you were a "business" partner with them).

Quote...and (I think) the school where we meet, blocks you-tube...

Yeah, our school had that same policy last year, though they have relaxed the restrictions this year.
The video was originally from the Computer History Museum website. Have you looked there?

Quote...so a copy would be much appriciated.

Heh, I'll see what I can do.

Boy, do I need the help of BIOS on this one,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org

RobertB · November 10, 2009, 01:22 PM

Quote from: me on November 10, 2009, 01:13 PMI thought YouTube had a policy that limited ordinary users to 10 minutes, 32 seconds of video (unless you were a "business" partner with them).

(snip)

The video was originally from the Computer History Museum website. Have you looked there?

Oops, I must have misremembered; the CHM presents its videos through YouTube.

So I guess they are a business partner with YouTube,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org

quarkx · November 10, 2009, 02:46 PM

No problem, and thanks,
I think I found them (and more) on Commodore.ca
looks like they are broken up, but thats ok.
-G

RobertB · November 10, 2009, 11:13 PM

Quote from: quarkx on November 10, 2009, 02:46 PMI think I found them (and more) on Commodore.ca

Ah, yes, I had forgotten about *those*.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org

quarkx · November 11, 2009, 07:35 AM

LOL

they are yours also he he