Teacher's PET

RobertB · March 24, 2009, 01:17 PM

Hey, everybody, take a look at the Teacher's PET at

http://retro-link.com/smf/index.php?topic=44.0

Now why wasn't one donated to me back in the day?!

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
Notacon 6 / Blockparty 3 on April 16-19
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Steve Gray · May 28, 2009, 03:05 AM

I recently picked up a Teachers' PET machine. The label on the back says 2001-8N. It was upgraded to 32K and BASIC4 ROMS, and came with Waterloo Structured BASIC in one of the option ROM sockets. Unlike the machine in the museum, this Teachers' PET has the standard graphics keyboard and NO built-in cassette unit. It has a 9" green-screen monitor. The front label is the same as the museum one, except it is on a plastic bezel. Cosmetically it's in great shape.

Steve

RobertB · May 28, 2009, 05:38 AM

Quote from: Steve Gray on May 28, 2009, 03:05 AMI recently picked up a Teachers' PET machine.

Congratulations!

QuoteThe label on the back says 2001-8N. It was upgraded to 32K and BASIC4 ROMS, and came with Waterloo Structured BASIC in one of the option ROM sockets.

Very interesting.

QuoteUnlike the machine in the museum, this Teachers' PET has the standard graphics keyboard and NO built-in cassette unit. It has a 9" green-screen monitor. The front label is the same as the museum one, except it is on a plastic bezel. Cosmetically it's in great shape.

Do you have a photograph of it that you can share?

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
July 25-26 Commodore Vegas Expo - http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex

Steve Gray · May 29, 2009, 12:59 AM

Sure, here it is....

Steve

edit: fixed picture url for my new site

RobertB · May 29, 2009, 01:35 AM

Mmm, nice! Like I told SMJ, if somebody can replicate that Teacher's PET label, we could slap the faux label onto regular PET 2001s.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
July 25-26 Commodore Vegas Expo - http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex

Steve Gray · May 29, 2009, 01:44 AM

Quote from: RobertB on May 29, 2009, 01:35 AM
Mmm, nice! Like I told SMJ, if somebody can replicate that Teacher's PET label, we could slap the faux label onto regular PET 2001s.

NO! NO! NO!

RobertB · May 29, 2009, 11:25 AM

Then there was the other idea to turn thoroughly broken PET 4032s into Educator 64s with all the metal modifications made for that C64 keyboard.

Yes!
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
July 25-26 Commodore Vegas Expo - http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex

Steve Gray · May 29, 2009, 12:47 PM

It still won't be a real Educator64... or Teachers' PET... but I guess provided no working PET is harmed and you don't try to pass it off as the "real thing" then I guess it's okay.

Personally, I'd love to see an "Educator 64-D-SK".. A C64 in a PET-SK case with built-in drives and a colour monitor ;-)
Or, better yet, an Educator 128-D-SK!

I've been looking, but can't find a colour monitor that would fit in the SK's monitor housing.

Steve

RobertB · May 29, 2009, 06:06 PM

Quote from: Steve Gray on May 29, 2009, 12:47 PM
It still won't be a real Educator64... or Teachers' PET... but I guess provided no working PET is harmed and you don't try to pass it off as the "real thing" then I guess it's okay.

Yeah, they would be "creative" hacks.

QuotePersonally, I'd love to see an "Educator 64-D-SK".. A C64 in a PET-SK case with built-in drives and a colour monitor ;-)
Or, better yet, an Educator 128-D-SK!

Fitting a 128 keyboard into the casing would be a challenge!

QuoteI've been looking, but can't find a colour monitor that would fit in the SK's monitor housing.

If you find a source, let us know. Hmm, those filmmakers who are following me... perhaps they would know where such monitors exist in their professional industry.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
July 25-26 Commodore Vegas Expo - http://www.portcommodore.com/commvex

Mercury · June 11, 2009, 01:44 PM

What a thing of beauty.

RobertB · August 18, 2010, 02:50 PM

When I visited Seattle, Washington in June, SMJ showed me the Telephone Museum. Yeah, lots of solenoids, other electro-mechanical parts, and even computers -- A&TT computers and a Timex TI-80 (what's that doing there? Where were the Commodores?!). He and his wife treated me to a nice seafood dinner by the Seattle Waterfront. And the highlight of the trip was getting to see his Teacher's PET in operation. Better yet, it was to see the Teacher's PET in his DeLorean. A classic within a classic!

More photos later,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org

RobertB · August 20, 2010, 03:08 PM

Here is a closer view of SMJ's Teacher's PET - this time not in the DeLorean.

(Oh, the black object in the upper right corner of the table is my Bronica GS-1 medium format film camera.)

Dial-up is slow,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org

RobertB · August 23, 2010, 11:12 AM

Here's an even closer view of that Teacher's PET.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org

quarkx · August 23, 2010, 04:40 PM

Nice, but is there any real difference between the TP and a regular 2001, other than the obvious label change?, Did it have ports to connect to other pets or such?

RobertB · August 24, 2010, 05:25 AM

Quote from: quarkx on August 23, 2010, 04:40 PM
Nice, but is there any real difference between the TP and a regular 2001...

At first glance, not that I can tell. To really see if there are any differences, I'd have to place my chicklet-keyed PET 2001 next to SMJ's Teacher's PET. Either I go up to Seattle, or he comes down to California.

QuoteDid it have ports to connect to other pets or such?

Connect a PET to a PET? I don't understand.

Do you want to network them?
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org

quarkx · August 24, 2010, 07:52 AM

Please excuse me, it could be just a figment of my crazy memory, but I seem to recall "networking" type boxes from CBM that could connect all the PETS in the Classroom up to the Teacher's machine (Not sure how or what protocol etc)because it was only the Teacher's machine that had a floppy drive or a printer hooked too it.
I probably am totaly out to lunch on this though, but I could swear I did see something like that at one time..

wte · August 24, 2010, 08:15 AM

There have been boxes to connect several CBM to one drive (or one printer).

Maybe something like this: http://www.commodore.ca/gallery/hardware/softbox_compute_setp82.jpg

Regards WTE

RobertB · August 24, 2010, 04:48 PM

Quote from: I on August 24, 2010, 05:25 AMTo really see if there are any differences, I'd have to place my chicklet-keyed PET 2001 next to SMJ's Teacher's PET.

In the meantime, here's a photo of the interior bottom of his Teacher's PET.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org

carlsson · August 30, 2010, 05:56 PM

Yes, something like a PET-Switch (MBS-xxxx) but that one doesn't require a master computer to control the peripherals. Perhaps in a network the Teacher's PET could be used to allow or reject requests to print to avoid wasting paper.

RobertB · September 05, 2010, 02:52 PM

Another in the series of Teacher's PET photos...

Looking up under the hood,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org

RobertB · September 05, 2010, 03:04 PM

Yet another Teacher's PET photo...

From its rear end,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org

RobertB · September 05, 2010, 03:15 PM

And the final one of the TP...

Glaring, isn't it?
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org

Hydrophilic · October 06, 2010, 01:15 PM

2 things.

1. I love the power supply inside. It's so simple... a thing of beauty. (The board layout is simplisticly eligant too)

2. In the next to the last photo (showing the back of the monitor), what are those devices? The look like small speakers, but facing into the monitor, instead of away... well if they are speakers, then I guess it might make it seem like the sounds are coming from inside the screen...

I don't know much about PETs expect for goofing around in VICE. When I was in elementary school, we toured the local high school and I saw some PETs, but by the time I was in middle school, the school district had upgraded to C64s, and by the time I was in high school they had AppleIIs and IBM PCs (saddly no Amigas).

RobertB · October 06, 2010, 02:41 PM

Quote from: Hydrophilic on October 06, 2010, 01:15 PMIn the next to the last photo (showing the back of the monitor), what are those devices? The look like small speakers, but facing into the monitor, instead of away...

They are strange-looking, add-on reset switches.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/
Southern California Commodore & Amiga Network
http://www.sccaners.org

Teacher's PET

Mercury